This section of the guide covers how to RNG manipulate Pokemon in the Grand Underground. Grand Underground Pokemon are generated upon entering the an underground cave and the Pokemon will remain the same until leaving the cave.
At this stage you should have already followed all of the setup and installation instructions found on the initial page of this guide.
Missed some setup instructions? Click here to go back!BDSP has a constantly advancing seed which controls all random in-game events, such as which Pokemon you will encounter, if the Pokemon will be shiny, what stats it has etc.
We can use Moarencounterbots to monitor seeds in real time, as well as display how many advancements have occured from the starting seed, it can automatically advance the seed until a given point, then pause the game after a certain number of advancements have occured.
Essentially, Moarencounterbots is capable of doing the "chore" work automatically so you don't have to. You just need to search for targets yourself, let Moarencounterbots advance the RNG state, and actually hit the correct seed that produces the result you want.
With all the require reading out of the way, it's time to get to work!
First, you will need stand in the correct position in-game, then configure PokeFinder to match the details of the Pokemon you are hunting and set the desired search filters.
Figure 1 - Game SetupEnsure you have all the required items and Pokemon you will need to successfully capture a Pokemon, after doing so, set your game up in this specific state:
Play alone
option.Restarting the game stops advancements from occuring when the game is paused on the Home menu, if you do not save and restart the game while underground your experience with this type of RNG will be a lot more difficult than it needs to be.
Click the Gen 8 -> Underground
button after launching PokeFinder to open the main window for underground encounters. Here is where we will fill in all the details about the Pokemon being hunted.
Lead
if you are using a Pokemon with an influencing ability (like Synchronize).Max Advances
field, enter the amount of frames you are willing to search through.Settings
section in the middle, specify game completion status and encounter details.Having a Pokemon with the ability Syncronize ensures that all encountered Pokemon have the same nature as your Pokemon. Your synchronizer needs to be first in your party in order to work.
Next, you will need to find your current seed, this can be done using Moarencounterbots (SysBot.NET).
Figure 3 - Finding Current SeedTo easily obtain your current seed at any given point you can use the EncBotCopySeedBS
bot routine in Moarencounterbots. You will need to toggle a few settings in the Hub
tab for use with PokeFinder.
Hub
tab, open the EncounterRNGBS
dropdown menu.Bit64PokeFinder
in the DisplaySeedMode
dropdown menu.MonitorRefreshRate
to 0, this will be needed later.Bots
tab, type the local IP address of the console.EncBotCopySeedBS
and add the bot.When starting the EncBotCopySeedBS
bot at any point your seed will be produced inside the Logs
tab. These seeds can be pasted into the Seed 0
& Seed 1
fields of PokeFinder to search for targets that match your search parameters.
Save the game, then run EncBotCopySeedBS
and paste the seeds into PokeFinder and hit search, repeat this process until a result that matches your search parameters has been found.
In Figure 3, we can see that a Shiny Munchlax that matches the search filters has been produced in 165110 advances. This is the frame that we will aim to enter the Underground cave that contains the desired encounter.
EncBotCopySeedBS
again to produce a new seed.Consider increasing the search range if you are consistently finding "bad" seeds. Moarencounterbots is capable of advancing millions of frames with ease using the EncBotDexFlipBS
routine. Alternatively you can opt to use less strict search filters.
From here you will need to advance towards your target frame. The majority of the work can be done using Moarencounterbots, but again this will require changing settings inside the Hub
tab.
To advance large distances as quickly as possible, use the EncBotDexFlipBS
routine. A description of this routine can be found here. Having a decent chunk of your Pokedex completed is important for optimizing this method.
Hub
tab, open the EncounterRNGBS
dropdown menu.MaxTotalAdvances
value to ~10,000 frames before your target (e.g if Target is at 100,000, set to 90,000).Bots
tab, type the local IP address into the assigned field and remove any other active bots.EncBotDexFlipBS
and EncBotRNGMonitorBS
After the settings have been properly toggled, open the Pokedex in game, disconnect all controllers using the unsync button, then start the bot. The bot will automatically pause the game when the MaxTotalAdvances
has been reached. You can then reconnect the controller once the routine has ended.
You do not need to use the Dex Flip routine if your target is of a small distance away, scrolling the Pokedex manually while monitoring your seed is effective enough in these cases.
Once you are close to your target frame (within ~10,000 frames), you will need to advance the rest of the way and hit your target frame slowly using EncBotRNGMonitorBS
to monitor your seed.
The recommended method of hitting a target frame accurately is by pressing the home button twice to resume and pause the game to advance the RNG state as slowly as possible, this technique is known as "home mashing". While you can hit targets without using this technique, it is considered less consistent.
EncBotCopySeedBS
to the bot list, then click the Start All
button and paste your new seeds into PokeFinder, this will provide your new starting frame.EncBotCopySeedBS
and add EncBotRNGMonitorBS
instead, then start the bot to begin monitoring your seed. If done correctly the logs should start from advance 0.You may optionally choose to manually advance the RNG state by scrolling the Pokedex. Be careful not to overshoot your target!
EncBotCopySeedBS
and paste your seeds into PokeFinder, then search for your target frame again. Now re-add EncBotRNGMonitorBS
once more.EncBotRNGMonitorBS
and use the home mashing technique mentioned above to inch towards your target frame slowly, once you hit the correct target frame keep the game paused on the Home Menu.PokeFinder displays the target on advance 118, and SysBot logs indicate that 118 advancements have occured, can now quickly enter the room and locate the Pokemon that we believe should be shiny (in this case, Munchlax). Then initiate the encounter and see if we hit the correct target frame.
Figure 8 - Result Found (PokeViewer.NET Confirmation)After opening PokeViewer.NET and using the Battle View
function, we can see that the Pokemon matches the PokeFinder search result. Mission accomplished!